@DonCryptoDraper @TheChiefNerd At least myocarditis usually resolves within months. Not so much for POTS which btw seems to be happening far more often. If the vax skeptics want to get further, they need to discuss this data too. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
RT @Jenn030303: @T14TT2 @DrAsifQasim @SangitaMyska @gmcuk @JosPearce @dr_barrett @ShrillaB Great thread on this topic https://t.co/OsZs8oH8…
@T14TT2 @DrAsifQasim @SangitaMyska @gmcuk @JosPearce @dr_barrett @ShrillaB Great thread on this topic https://t.co/OsZs8oH8Wb
RT @EricTopol: Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) can occur after Covid and in the 90-day period following vaccination. It is…
@kevinnbass I've offered you one multiple times, but you've declined to to engage with large scale data indicating that *both* vax and virus are causing significant adverse effects, let alone grapple with the implications. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@StMGP_Bayern @klausholetschek My German is schlect. But I wonder: is 1 in 1000 very rare in your language? This is just for one outcome that's fortunately now been well tracked, namely #POTS. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@ChloeWEARMASK @NBCNews Why? Other outcomes have been found that can arise from *both*. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@NBCNews Thanks for reporting on this. I don't know where it leads, but we need to follow all the leads without bias. Tinnitus may be yet another outcome that may arise from *either* the vax or the virus. Like myocarditis and POTS. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@MarcBrup @cdym8vrmy7 Post Vac ist ja keine eigenständige Krankheit. Genau wie Long COVID keine ist. In beiden Fällen kann zB POTS dahinterstecken:
@Loricatty @Neal53895744 @healingceline You’re right. We can’t give specific numbers. In studies, so far it seems to be under 1%. I agree more research into vaccine injury is needed. This study showed 0.004% POTS, 0.00008% myocarditis and 0.016% hypertens
@SabbySabs2 Not just tinnitus. This is what it did to me and many others I know. Still sick after 2 years. https://t.co/U4JYeI5OKi
@DrJBhattacharya Would students developing #POTS be able to sue in your opinion? This seems to occur somewhere between 10-100x as often as myocarditis per a quite large dataset. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@TravelBohemian @kevinnbass A growing number are talking about both https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@kevinnbass How exactly is tachycardia amorphous? Does it only acquire shape when it's post-vax? https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
My sister has this and she can hardly function. She went to the emergency room yesterday and 20 hours later was admitted and got a room. 12 hours later she was dismissed from the hospital after seeing one doctor. Conditioned the same.
Apparent risks of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome diagnoses after COVID-19 vaccination and SARS-Cov-2 Infection | Nature Cardiovascular Research https://t.co/DAir1Qj6FT
@msabouri @mentju4 @teaze_r @ajlamesa @kevinnbass Sent you one in my reply above covering both myocarditis & POTS, the maladies that tend to strike the young & active. Here it is again. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@maolesen @teaze_r She has POTS which has now has well characterized temporal association with the vax on the same order of magnitude as the virus. Your overconfidence is putting at risk two patient populations. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@JetRose7777 @kevinnbass Yep, *both* pathways exist. I'm sure Kevin will say one is psychological and the other physiological 🙄 https://t.co/aRvIavj588
@Ultracaustique @dysclinic Based on this work assessing both, it seems they're pretty independent. Dysautonomia happens far more often. https://t.co/aRvIavj588
@Kallina98273119 @Karl_Lauterbach @C_Scheibenbogen It's happening for sure, but overall less often than from the virus. There is data on one of the common chronic/syndromic outcomes now. https://t.co/aRvIavj588
@Jessiejamez420 @Petrroll @useless_priest Yes it's occurred to many of us that this one pathway to a disabling outcome. And it fact it's been documented as such. For the folks who are susceptible (identifying why exactly remains TBD), seems *both* the vax
RT @teaze_r: @DeryaTR_ @elonmusk @BillyM2k No, it WAS NOT the only side effect. Here's another one: that's what it did to me. https://t.co/…
@Marc_Veld Hi Marc, thanks for this summary. Another one appears to be POTS. Seems to be not so rare👇🏽. It only got an ICD-10 code in Oct 2022, so I fear we're playing catch-up on these events. Like the others: ot can arise from both vax & virus. ht
@Marc_Veld I thought this study was the most concerning one I have seen on side effects from the vaccines. https://t.co/2nVZJNEFkC
@DeryaTR_ @elonmusk @BillyM2k No, it WAS NOT the only side effect. Here's another one: that's what it did to me. https://t.co/U4JYeI5OKi
RT @vijayiyer312: @marwilliamson Thank you for lending your voice to those battling chronic #longcovid. Please do also consider those with…
@kmpanthagani VAERS seems like a lost cause. Even so, I'm curious how reports breakdown by: death vs acute morbidity vs chronic morbidity. I'm most concerned about the latter (#postvac syndrome), as its frequency appears to be in the same ballpark as chron
@marwilliamson Thank you for lending your voice to those battling chronic #longcovid. Please do also consider those with #postvac syndrome. There is now strong data for at least chronic outcome (#POTS) suggesting both pathways exist. https://t.co/aRvIavix
@dankellytweets @Yash25571056 Is this an anti-vax study? Suspicious journal? https://t.co/U4JYeI5OKi
@SweetBCBoi @j_b_kennedy @Andrew_070702 @JJ69399 Agree it's classic syndromic Long COVID. But the best data on POTS to date suggests a notable number of cases may arise from vax as well. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@EBRheum @zeynep @BenMazer @LCalabreseDO @jeffsparks @VPrasadMDMPH @adamcifu I have a research background & role , but in this context am a patient. More focused on pathophysiology studies vs epidemiology ones. That said: epi wise I prefer more target
@brownstoneinst @RMConservative Agree with Anne. We now have large-scale data on one of the key syndromic outcomes (POTS). Temporal association to vax and virus is clearly found. No need to mess with the big Long COVID symptom laundry list or to scrounge a
@j_b_kennedy @Rolo_Tamasi @TBD77 @DavidPNoble63 These are symptoms of the cluster of related diagnoses associated (in multiple studies, but here's one of nearly 300k people) with both infection and vaccination: POTS, SFN, MCAD. https://t.co/ugcjAPulTX
RT @vijayiyer312: For those just tuning in, #POTS happens 10-100x as often as the much-discussed myocarditis. There are now substantial sta…
@OtheFarm @Andrew_070702 POTS has been shown at high assocaition rate to *both* vax and (confirmed) virus. The main problem is that *doctors have been ignoring POTS* . I don't think we need to add virus/vax politics to the mix by speculating about asymptom
@Sheesh49 @Andrew_070702 Why would you do that? POTS has assessed at scale during the pandemic & temporal association was found with *both* the vax and virus. We need to take care of all patients in this both *regardless of cause*. https://t.co/aRvIa
For those just tuning in, #POTS happens 10-100x as often as the much-discussed myocarditis. There are now substantial statistics showing temporal association with *both* vax & virus. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@BenMazer And it may well be the case, despite the poor scientific ethics of the FL Surgeon General. Certainly the spike is a valid hypothesis for the common virus/vax adverse effect that happens 10-100x more often 👇🏽than myocarditis, so why not myo too?
@sassy_girl1000 @kevinnbass For sure, LC was happening before the vax. I think the best data is showing both vax & virus can be apparent triggers of some of the syndrome outcomes, e.g. POTS. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@narkosedoc @ejustin46 @FairyHolla "because it could be a confounding factor". For instance: POTS can arise from either and many think it has an autoimmune origin. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@kevinnbass Now somehow you think the post vax *dose dependent* adverse effects are real but the very same post viral outcomes are mask induced. Makes perfect logical sense 😵💫 https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@inverari4 @MakisMD @AlastairMcA30 @drdrew @DrKellyVictory @AskDrDrew There is evidence of unexpected harms: the form of dysautonomia. But only unexpected because dysautonomias have been ignored regardless of cause. No more! Agreed: no evidence it has anyt
@stephaniemlee Good riddance! Now I hope there's oxygen for discussion of actual vax issues, such as #POTS. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
RT @vijayiyer312: @Rasmussen_Poll @stkirsch Science isn't determined by polls. Large-scale studies are starting to reveal the real issue: i…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @vijayiyer312: @Rasmussen_Poll @stkirsch Science isn't determined by polls. Large-scale studies are starting to reveal the real issue: i…
RT @Gonzalo53673264: 💉= #CovidPersistente 🐑 negacionista https://t.co/XTLdZsOq2k ⬇️ https://t.co/hWZqEHqzZb
RT @CCCastera: @FLAHAULT @MoreauGabarain Sérieusement, vous appuyez sur l’étude israélienne sur le #CovidLong, très critiquée à l’internati…
RT @CCCastera: @FLAHAULT @MoreauGabarain Sérieusement, vous appuyez sur l’étude israélienne sur le #CovidLong, très critiquée à l’internati…
RT @CCCastera: @FLAHAULT @MoreauGabarain Sérieusement, vous appuyez sur l’étude israélienne sur le #CovidLong, très critiquée à l’internati…
@FLAHAULT @MoreauGabarain Sérieusement, vous appuyez sur l’étude israélienne sur le #CovidLong, très critiquée à l’international pour ses biais majeurs ? 👇
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @vijayiyer312: @whalenonfools @oneunderscore__ @TheNas Not sure what's funny, can you explain? Here's a Nature paper regarding one of t…
RT @AaronOtsuka: COVID-19およびmRNA COVID-19ワクチンは、衰弱性の自律神経系障害である姿勢起立性頻脈症候群(POTS)に関連している。 https://t.co/wgD42yDJbu
@4runnerbro @queenn_demon Every vax reduces LC study I've seen uses a big tent definition of LC, most of which is probably better called medium COVID (lingering symptoms). Sure the vax likely reduces those. The syndromic varieties seem to be a different ma
@brackmea9 @MichaelPSenger I fail to see how lockdown could produce a robust documented physiological effect like POTS. The virus & vax (both) however do have plausible mechanisms. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
RT @GeoEduOne: And before the 🧵 gets hijacked, an association between #POTS and vaccination has been indicated (awful for the people affect…
And before the 🧵 gets hijacked, an association between #POTS and vaccination has been indicated (awful for the people affected), but at a much lower rate than after a #COVID19 infection https://t.co/IhFr3H6cud
@edina_forgacs I don't know how they can still sell the vaccines. 1.33% Odds of giving you POTS, as well as ton of other side effects for no benefit. https://t.co/FOLwMxTpSh
@HHSGov This needs more nuance. Vaccines likely only help prevent "medium COVID". When forms of true (chronic) Long COVID are broken out carefully, there are signs the vax can actually be a trigger just like infection. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@n3ll41 Ja, tritt super häufig nach einer Covid-Infektion oder -Impfung auf. Natürlich auch nach anderen Infekten/Impfungen. https://t.co/si9l4YyQ0b Falls du kürzlich eine Infektion oder Impfung hattest könntest du an #LongCovid oder #PostVac leiden.
@UnchainedCub @loscharlos @MonicaGandhi9 LC is an umbrella mish-mash definition. The vax helps prevent most cases, but unfortunately not the chronic cases (which are the smaller fraction, but most folks using the #longcovid hashtag). https://t.co/aRvIavix
@Rasmussen_Poll @stkirsch Science isn't determined by polls. Large-scale studies are starting to reveal the real issue: it's that the #postvac chronic sequelae are the same ones as post-viral chronic (aka #longcovid). We need to tend to the actual people
@Libellenflug Here’s a study of almost 300k vaccinated individuals: https://t.co/ugcjAPulTX
@whalenonfools @oneunderscore__ @TheNas Not sure what's funny, can you explain? Here's a Nature paper regarding one of the common chronic adverse events, namely #POTS. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
"Stop making it up." "He was finally diagnosed with Long Covid, and the Long Covid clinic believe he's got PoTS" Five conditions with the highest post-vaccination odds of new diagnoses includes PoTS: https://t.co/O17MHwNXyn https://t.co/VzZy52fGeZ
Yes! I emailed and asked them to review this study of 284,592 individuals showing that post-vax odds of POTS + other dysautonomias combined were greater than myocarditis, with mast cell disorders as the next-most-common after myocarditis: https://t.co/ugcj
@NeuroSjogrens Will @MetrodoraInst take on #postvac cases of #pots too? Lots of @dysautonomia cases reported today at the National Academies hearing on post vax adverse events. Relevant source below. Apparent risks of postural orthostatic tachycardia http
Key reference: https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
Apparent risks of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome diagnoses after COVID-19 vaccination and SARS-Cov-2 Infection | Nature Cardiovascular Research https://t.co/jUxCpua9GX
RT @YbarraLaurel: My friend developed #POTS right after the Pfizer Vx. Her teen daughter had #seizures for over a year 💔🥲 #POTS is also ha…
RT @balaganista: I wrote to them and also asked them to review the literature showing associations between mast cell disorders and Covid va…
@BallouxFrancois @LizHighleyman What was not well known Prof. Balloux was @dysautonomia. A common form, #POTS, only got a proper ICD-10 code in Oct 2022. There are <100 specialists in the US despite a burden that likely reaches into the millions in this
@RxRegA I'm curious your thoughts on why there's so much interest (on Twitter at least) in subclinical myocarditis when fully clinical POTS appears to be happening 10-100x more often than clinical myo? Shouldn't there be at least as much focus on the https
I wrote to them and also asked them to review the literature showing associations between mast cell disorders and Covid vaccination (link below), in addition to dysautonomias. Maybe others can be spared my fate. https://t.co/ugcjAPulTX
@smithsj Ref articles https://t.co/kjPCEy4s26 and https://t.co/gLPmBoRnqq
RT @gorka_orive: Riesgo aparente de síndrome de taquicardia ortostática postural tras infección por coronavirus y también tras vacunación (…
@AlastairMcA30 If VAERS isn't a reliable system, where would you recommend reporting of #pots cases after a vaccine? There seem to be a number of them. My Mass General neurologist thinks it would be worthwhile to report my case but doesn't think VAERS is w
@JReinerMD Similar for #POTS: at least as much from virus as the vax. Btw, it happens 10-100x more often than myocarditis! https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
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Nueva actividad en la política navarra: Patricia Fanlo ha hecho un like a un tweet de Gorka Orive https://t.co/9aBjZvleQJ
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@dustinmcd123 @D_Bone At least some of the syndromic outcomes appear to possibly be spurred by vax. And I have seen no data that syndromic outcomes specifically are prevented by the vax. https://t.co/aRvIavj588
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