@GidMK @bXLpedestrian @OtherDays_Music @mcseeley Not sure why you say obviously. Points regarding degree of selection bias for that particular study aside, POTS is clearly a substantial fraction of LC from this large systemwide (low selection bias) study:
RT @SkylarPandora: @PleiadesCat @TheMilkBarTV @liz_churchill8 A study comparing patients 90 days prior and 90 days after the mRNA shot foun…
@technovelist @AlexBerenson For one of the most common long-term symptoms (high heart rate), there is now ample data (250K+) that both virus & vax can be triggering. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@AlexBerenson If you want to strengthen your case, add in POTS which also strikes younger age groups and, unlike myocarditis (except in very rare cases of death), tends to be chronic. You just have to stop s*tting on Long Covid. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@AlexBerenson Fully agree. It would help if you stop s*tting on Long Covid, much of which is POTS, which has been found at 10-50x the rate of myocarditis. Just like with myo, either virus or vax can be the trigger. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@LongCovidKids @UKHSA I do support the idea of choice. But practically I'm not too disappointed. One of the biggest forms of Long Covid, especially in kids, is POTS. There we have substantial data the vax is quite often a trigger for onset. The risks may w
@YakkStack I shared with you the largest dataset on likely the most common chronic Long Covid & Long Vax outcome. Sharing it again. If you read & comment on this paper in a serious fashion, then your call for a live discussion would carry some weig
@VladVexler @jenbrea Despite all the words they use, it's hard to look at the data in Tables 1 & 2 here and conclude that it's very rare...hazard ratio increase is within factor of 2 of viral trigger. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@jenbrea By all appearance (imo) it depends on type of Long Covid. Given significant data showing temporal association of vax & POTS onset, I'm concerned syndromic LC types (including ME) are not at all prevented by vax. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@YakkStack @blueherondays One of the key Long Covid & Long Vax outcomes is POTS. There is abundant data (200K+ records) showing both triggers (vax & virus) are temporally associated to POTS onset. Just read tables 1 & 2. https://t.co/aRvIavixi
@EL_PatatorFR @guilhemeric C’est cela oui
@EricDrevon @guilhemeric Il y a les impressions, puis il y a la réalité
« Pour les diagnostics associés au POTS, en particulier, le risque post-infection était 5,35 fois plus élevé après exposition à l'infection par le SARS-Cov-2 qu'après exposition à la vaccination » Je vs laisse jauger la manipulation du tweet ci dessous
@guilhemeric « Pour les diagnostics associés au POTS, en particulier, le risque post-infection était 5,35 fois plus élevé après exposition à l'infection par le SARS-Cov-2 qu'après exposition à la vaccination » Je vous laisse jauger la manipulation du twe
@realstewpeters The article is prompted largely by this large Cedars-Sinai study 👇🏽which showed a common effect (POTS) appears temporally linked to *both* virus and vax. Can we please focus on the vulnerable instead of virus vs vax? https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@Katelyn01550708 @TheEliKlein @MartyMakary If one looks at numbers in here (vs the words), there's clearly a fair number of *both* post virus & vax. Ultimately more virus, since chronic LC affects the younger set who mostly got vaccinated only in 2021.
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @vijayiyer312: @Power2Control Wishing you a fast recovery @SenKatieBritt! Glad your (likely) post-viral sequela has a good prognosis.…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
@Power2Control Wishing you a fast recovery @SenKatieBritt! Glad your (likely) post-viral sequela has a good prognosis. Please give some thought to @dysautonomia sequelae (e.g. #POTS) from virus or vax. These tend to be *chronic*. @NIH funding low compar
Apparent Risks of Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome Diagnoses After COVID-19 Vaccination and SARS-Cov-2 Infection https://t.co/0CG58ne5RA
RT @vijayiyer312: @RxRegA Have you called for any studies of post-vax POTS, which appears to occur 10-50x as often as frank myocarditis? ht…
RT @vijayiyer312: @RxRegA Have you called for any studies of post-vax POTS, which appears to occur 10-50x as often as frank myocarditis? ht…
@RxRegA Have you called for any studies of post-vax POTS, which appears to occur 10-50x as often as frank myocarditis? https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@michellespj @DiedSuddenly_ and POTS has been extensively evaluated "the rate of new POTS diagnoses made after vaccination was much less frequent the rate of new POTS diagnoses made after SARS-CoV-2 infection" https://t.co/xfhZ4X9NDm
@rachelschraer Not enough. There's really poor documentations and research on vaccine AEs. Medicine is in the dark about a whole bunch of vaccine-induced conditions. Take POTS. Even after these studies, we still are not officially recognized. There has bee
@tylerblack32 @That_Snail_Girl @elonmusk Do you really believe 0.15% (the ~50% HR increase on top of the ~0.3% average baseline rate across the cohorts) is really 'super duper duper duper rare'? Truly I ask you to consider fully the *numbers* in Tables 1
RT @vijayiyer312: @tylerblack32 @elonmusk I wish I knew this, but I continue to believe it's become a grey area re risk/benefit in younger…
@tylerblack32 @elonmusk I wish I knew this, but I continue to believe it's become a grey area re risk/benefit in younger cohorts given numbers (forget the words) in the POTS study. Unfortunately POTS only got an ICD code in Oct 2022 & much of medicine
@JoeyMannarinoUS I'm a #postvac patient myself (I got #POTS, which is actually more common than myocarditis👇🏽). Many outcomes can be triggered by vax, virus, and other things. We do need more post-vax awareness/support; but not by excluding other possibili
@tarahaelle @BiologistBunk @PeterHotez @Medscape @DrPanMD Thank you for this piece Tara. I hope you'll also take full consideration of the substantial numbers affected by conditions not yet on the schedule, including POTS which now has substantial data sh
@walidgellad @BenMazer If you remain interested in risk/benefit of vaccinations in young healthy people, I'm still puzzled why you focus on myocarditis when POTS happens 10-50x more often? https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
RT @19joho: He’s not right. The vaccine is flawed, but there would have been more rare tragedies had 0 kids been vaccinated. Yes, I k…
RT @19joho: He’s not right. The vaccine is flawed, but there would have been more rare tragedies had 0 kids been vaccinated. Yes, I k…
RT @19joho: He’s not right. The vaccine is flawed, but there would have been more rare tragedies had 0 kids been vaccinated. Yes, I k…
He’s not right. The vaccine is flawed, but there would have been more rare tragedies had 0 kids been vaccinated. Yes, I know it’s not 🍎 to 🍎, but we should have tolerated this⬇️, the way we would have tolerated a kid dying of measles in 2019. Not at
@19joho And this too is selective. Vinay will talk up myocarditis, yet will ignore data & mock patients battling POTS which occurs 10-50x more. The irony is he may be right that vax is misguided in younger cohorts, yet he's ignoring the best data. htt
@GidMK I'll repeat to you there is now (since Dec) a good opportunity to nerd out with quality data (200K+, prospective, decent demographics, objective endpoint) on Long Covid. Study👇🏽finds surprisingly high prevalence of POTS (~0.3%) apart from cause. ht
RT @vijayiyer312: @alltherobs Reminder to look at hard numbers 👇🏽on a very objective measure (high HR ⬆️ upon standing): ~0.3% overall POTS…
RT @vijayiyer312: @alltherobs Reminder to look at hard numbers 👇🏽on a very objective measure (high HR ⬆️ upon standing): ~0.3% overall POTS…
RT @vijayiyer312: @alltherobs Reminder to look at hard numbers 👇🏽on a very objective measure (high HR ⬆️ upon standing): ~0.3% overall POTS…
RT @vijayiyer312: @alltherobs Reminder to look at hard numbers 👇🏽on a very objective measure (high HR ⬆️ upon standing): ~0.3% overall POTS…
RT @vijayiyer312: @alltherobs Reminder to look at hard numbers 👇🏽on a very objective measure (high HR ⬆️ upon standing): ~0.3% overall POTS…
RT @vijayiyer312: @alltherobs Reminder to look at hard numbers 👇🏽on a very objective measure (high HR ⬆️ upon standing): ~0.3% overall POTS…
@alltherobs Reminder to look at hard numbers 👇🏽on a very objective measure (high HR ⬆️ upon standing): ~0.3% overall POTS burden estimated. Maybe overestimated because of transient cases, but still! Ignore vax aspect. This is first very large dataset (200K
@HouseLyndsey And yet they still push these poisons on the population for a virus that no longer kills even the 1% COVID may have, I seriously doubt the majority of COVID deaths were truly caused by COVID to begin with. G-d be with you. https://t.co/1HAU4
@tarahaelle @Medscape @PeterHotez @DrPanMD Ladapo & Kennedy have been very wrong & have set back public dialogue. But I do wish medical establishment would rise above noise & give legitimate vaccine concerns, backed by substantial data (such as
@86thistimeline @BiologistBunk @tarahaelle @PeterHotez @Medscape @DrPanMD Not sure what you mean. 10% is actually underestimating the biggest & best relevant dataset to date. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@AlexSprackland @RealCheckMarker This data (forget the words) suggests it's closer to even steven than many would care to admit. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@danterosati @brownecfm I suggest you actually look at the data they cite, rather than get caught up in words used to make it through a media cycle. Tables 1 & 2. Post-vax on the same order of magnitude as post-viral. We need to deal with both. https:/
@CDCDirector Recognize us and help us. We are now your responsibility. We did our part. Time for reciprocation. https://t.co/U4JYeI5OKi
RT @vijayiyer312: @Illusionist999 @LizHighleyman @loscharlos @KelleyKga Yeah, but this seems to be happening in ~0.5% of folks based on the…
@Illusionist999 @LizHighleyman @loscharlos @KelleyKga Yeah, but this seems to be happening in ~0.5% of folks based on the largest POTS dataset possibly ever collected. So I'm good with calling it a severe effect (even if effects on QoL are mild). But it re
@ringothe5th @KelleyKga They should have done better testing for certain. It's a weakness of the study & team. But POTS is increasingly being found as a leading form of Long Covid, e.g. study below, so it's a reasonable inference given the study limita
@waynemcdougall @richardvallee @YoniFreedhoff Please read the (large!) study cited by the article https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@redfishsalmon @bruce_y_lee @Forbes I'd ask the same of you! The news is based on quite likely the biggest POTS dataset to date. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@prwright55 @ScienceWDrDoug It's based on *data* (at large scale, 200k+) that shows the same outcomes arising from *either* vax or virus. They should better acknowledge they're in the same ballpark, but please stop the denial of post-viral cases. https://
@degensoulzz @vahsiminimalizm @buyukozcu Tanı oranlarını netleştirmek için POTS ve ilişkili koşulları tanımlamak için daha spesifik yöntemler kullanan prospektif çalışmalara,bulguların genellenebilirliğini değerlendirmek için daha büyük ve daha çeşitli dış
@vijayiyer312 @teaze_r @bruce_y_lee @Forbes Have you seen this thread about that study? I’d be interested in your thoughts on it? https://t.co/3LAxicmXaf
RT @vijayiyer312: @teaze_r @bruce_y_lee @Forbes And my estimate is based on a few inferences from the (large-scale!) POTS data in the Cedar…
@teaze_r @bruce_y_lee @Forbes And my estimate is based on a few inferences from the (large-scale!) POTS data in the Cedars-Sinai dataset. https://t.co/aRvIavixiA
@postvacvoyager @bruce_y_lee @Forbes Yes, but the study cited on POTS had substantial numbers & did start to get at its overall prevalence levels (~1 in 1000) while showing substantial hazard ratio increases (30% & 50%) for vax & virus triggers
@BethH_persist You may be interested in this thread; https://t.co/wPRGC1EbOg
@KalmiaLatifolia @WotsOnInfo @WaxRatchet @RetsefL @stkirsch @elonmusk Active surveillance suffers from bias that they usually limit to 3-6 weeks after jab. One of the few studies that had a longer follow-up time showed significance increases in dysautonomi
RT @teaze_r: @JosephFraiman @matthewshaw1111 I couldn't read the whole study right now, but am going to. On cursory glance, no POTS/dysauto…
@JosephFraiman @matthewshaw1111 I couldn't read the whole study right now, but am going to. On cursory glance, no POTS/dysautonomia? I think it is the most prevalent SAE and is repeatedly ignored. Why? https://t.co/U4JYeI5OKi
RT @vijayiyer312: @ReginaWatteel @AVoineskos Regarding #2, the answer is a combination of both. For at least one common form of Long Covid…
@maryaalexand1 I’ve seen that rate questioned, but I don’t know how valid it is. Would welcome thoughts. https://t.co/wPRGC1EbOg
@VPrasadMDMPH Here is some data for you. A lot of us got POTS/dysautonomia following Covid vaccination without having had infection. https://t.co/GvcbrWZPTe
@ImmuneMatters Correct interpretation 👇 https://t.co/NQYsodsDyA
@hmkyale @ScienceMagazine @jcouzin @GretchenVogel1 @React19org So excluding case studies, the only useful data are of this study, which found an increase of POTS symptoms after vaccination. https://t.co/Hm26s08a94 But this study didn't assess ongoing symp
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @AaronOtsuka: COVID-19およびmRNA COVID-19ワクチンは、衰弱性の自律神経系障害である姿勢起立性頻脈症候群(POTS)に関連している。 https://t.co/wgD42yDJbu
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @AaronOtsuka: COVID-19およびmRNA COVID-19ワクチンは、衰弱性の自律神経系障害である姿勢起立性頻脈症候群(POTS)に関連している。 https://t.co/wgD42yDJbu
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @AaronOtsuka: COVID-19およびmRNA COVID-19ワクチンは、衰弱性の自律神経系障害である姿勢起立性頻脈症候群(POTS)に関連している。 https://t.co/wgD42yDJbu
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
@DressFor_ME @ayg011 @loscharlos For the types of outcomes driven mostly by mild infections, I do fear the virus & vax are near-equal culprits as triggers & the percentage may not be as tiny as we hear about. The best data on this is for POTS 👇🏽. h
RT @MdJpn: 大腿骨骨折の緊急入院が急増中。高齢者は大腿骨頸部骨折で入院すると、認知症進行、フレイル、寝たきりになりやすい。衰弱性自立神経系障害＝姿勢起立性頻脈症候群も疑わないといけない。たしかに、突然脈が速くなると訴える患者にときどき遭遇する。これもC-VAD(コロワ…
@LucidDr95185723 @Ienapiangens @franchicp @debbmarii @ElideMirce @Livythinker @Lancillotto810 @Dave_pimpere @GiuseppeCarbot5 @ChanceGardiner "the risk of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) is increased following COVID-19 vaccination compared