まさにその通りで 現にこの論文では 「西洋人が聞いて不快に感じる不協和音でも、南米アマゾン先住民は心地よく感じた」 との結果があり この差異が生まれる原因が生来的なのか、文化的なのかは定かでないのだけれど 確実に人種や文化圏によって印象は違ってくると思われる https://t.co/9etj3Ftqit
@ShredGuitarPOPO とても興味深いですね。 Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception アマゾン先住民の不協和音に対する無関心が音楽認識の文化的差異を明らかにする https://t.co/R6KlBgzBfn
@loveslap @Komaniecki_R The concept of dissonance is cultural, not universal. https://t.co/FEjL8hKe6V
RT @mulberry2077: 今日、理系トークBARで話題にした記事はこれです。和音を我々が「気持ち良い音」として認識するのは、文化によって成り立っている可能性があるという記事。【社会学】音の好みは文化によって形作られている | Nature https://t.co/I…
今日、理系トークBARで話題にした記事はこれです。和音を我々が「気持ち良い音」として認識するのは、文化によって成り立っている可能性があるという記事。【社会学】音の好みは文化によって形作られている | Nature https://t.co/ITiHntDGF4
@daithibowzy The question is if there is a biological rationale for mix preference. I'm not aware of work on this, so my stance is speculation. However, there is work in the context of consonance, which indicates preferences are potentially cultural and no
McDermott, J., Schultz, A., Undurraga, E. et al. Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception. Nature 535, 547–550 (2016). https://t.co/vjBtOXiGzQ
@NuevoParadigma3 Vale, creo que es este. El problema es que es de suscripción, a ver si SciHub hace su magia. https://t.co/1p9lTeI4xW
@Komaniecki_R "Musicians can’t even agree on what is “dissonant” or “consonant,”" Neither can non-musicians, for that matter. https://t.co/zKnh72qbxi
RT @Silpayamanant: "Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception" https://t.co/Q88eQLuHGx…
"Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception" https://t.co/Q88eQLuHGx "Ethnomusicologists and composers, in contrast, have argued that consonance is a creation of Western musical culture" 7/n https://t.c
@adelegoldberg1 @LisaMargulis @samuelmehr Also Josh Mcdermott, for instance: https://t.co/6XwHNpV9Qh https://t.co/m2j1yfbtDq https://t.co/3iVq27xOZv https://t.co/TkkcQDyr71
My comment in the OT is from an r/musictheory thread "Levels of dissonance?" and of course my first comment in it was to link to this study: https://t.co/Q88eQLuHGx
@funktrism @CusimanoCorey @chazfirestone it does seem like research on music could use some more of this mentality imo.... this paper for example i think is very well done but i disagree with the interpretation maybe 70-80% still love the paper though an
RT @Silpayamanant: Given all non diatonic systems which create non tertian harmonies this particular study shouldn't have been surprising.…
Given all non diatonic systems which create non tertian harmonies this particular study shouldn't have been surprising. https://t.co/Q88eQLuHGx
And there was this study from 2016 which was unsurprising for some of us. "The results indicate that consonance preferences can be absent in cultures sufficiently isolated from Western music, and are thus unlikely to reflect innate biases..." https://t.c
RT @NS944A: @s_kajita 多分、これが元記事 https://t.co/4qEUIjmNJq
@V27xS4OQ0Pf9QRX @shapoco Nature onlineの原論文へのリンク。$8.99 か…。 https://t.co/KOnAJF205b
@s_kajita 多分、これが元記事 https://t.co/4qEUIjmNJq
@paniq This research suggests it's imprinted https://t.co/XMEcuvIS9T so it looks like it's not that human hearing has a filter, nor that it's a property of physical waves interfering, but rather it's merely a cultural phenomenon. I'd say what you're saying
We’ve previously found evidence that, unlike Western listeners, Tsimane’ do not prefer consonant to dissonant intervals, (https://t.co/j4jVWdlpHN). But would Tsimane’ listeners still be more likely to fuse consonant compared to dissonant intervals? 9/n
@Aeon_Dan @ErnestoMateoc @RodgerYoung0 @MikelChamizo @el_pais Y a las pruebas me remito: https://t.co/HD1Y6zIBWi
面白い。 わからない単語があるので辞書使う。 Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception. https://t.co/R7EanQroBX
Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception https://t.co/AIltdbgcyv
この論文かな。 https://t.co/0m2iJtVBko
@JoshHMcDermott You sold your soul to the devil... Seriously? Consonance perception mostly to cultural factors? Scientific corruption, conflict of interests, biased reviewers-friends. https://t.co/lhwjoL4rzc #shame #dirtyscience
Find the recommended article here: https://t.co/D45ewEI8vx
RT @SoStrangelyPod: Another recording done! Look out at the end of Septembre for a discussion with Josh McDermott, and @danielshanahan on t…
RT @SoStrangelyPod: Another recording done! Look out at the end of Septembre for a discussion with Josh McDermott, and @danielshanahan on t…
RT @SoStrangelyPod: Another recording done! Look out at the end of Septembre for a discussion with Josh McDermott, and @danielshanahan on t…
RT @SoStrangelyPod: Another recording done! Look out at the end of Septembre for a discussion with Josh McDermott, and @danielshanahan on t…
RT @SoStrangelyPod: Another recording done! Look out at the end of Septembre for a discussion with Josh McDermott, and @danielshanahan on t…
this is gonna be great
Another recording done! Look out at the end of Septembre for a discussion with Josh McDermott, and @danielshanahan on the variable pleasantness of consonance and dissonance, given the results of this article. https://t.co/D45ewEI8vx
Well, duh! "Music is present in every culture, but the degree to which it is shaped by biology remains debated. One widely discussed phenomenon is that some combinations of notes are perceived by Westerners as pleasant, or... https://t.co/Q88eQLuHGx
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
@MusicoloJake @_robbieamoore @MaherEK isn't this all you need? https://t.co/sz2sjZzps2
@MusHistCliches @SMT_musictheory "culture has a dominant role in shaping aesthetic responses to music" - meant to look this article up when I 1st read your post. https://t.co/vxQMTtugzL
Parece que el gusto musical no tiene base biológica https://t.co/mlx7eAaYuf
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/0C2l8o6frT
RT @rsuarezsaa: Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/A8RVByPjTJ #music #perception … https://t.co/5iHHFr6u9t
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/vW8LFrlJzs
@danielshanahan This one? Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception https://t.co/jHtgNTUn7H
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/FiSz75z8m9
ヒトの世界のお話です(^^♪ 快い音:西洋文化から隔離されてきたボリビアのチマネ族社会を対象とする研究は、音楽的協和音に対する選好が文化に起源を持つことを示唆している https://t.co/lTsWQpK9bf https://t.co/wxACMTGnT6
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/gWtZ4TaC18
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/eUExgfJYHb
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/1jV7CVN056
RT @rsuarezsaa: Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https:…
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/zkBh98QU1b
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/SaTANKBsCb
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/hru3n8gHIp
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/5tkGxwKUwV
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/QLRlplg1Kw
RT @nature: Musical preference for consonance over dissonance varies with an individual’s experience https://t.co/0b8FXcozLK https://t.co/O…
@adamhorinmusic this paper argues for experience. https://t.co/ihWBxU4h0A
@biccobeat 前にこういうのがあったんですが、協和音や不協和音という感覚は学習によるものらしいですよ。 https://t.co/Prh4FxltaE
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/kliNncZeIK
「前前前世」の耳コピできるかなぁ、と考えながらサビ+αを簡単な楽譜にする深夜。 そういえば今年7月のNatureに、"不協"和音に対する感覚は育った文化の影響を受ける、という論文が載っていた。おそらくリズム感も同じではないだろうか。 https://t.co/ArPf91dXeA
RT @nature: Musical preference for consonance over dissonance varies with an individual’s experience https://t.co/0b8FXcozLK https://t.co/O…
Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception https://t.co/eRUks4BDW7 via @frasermartin
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/ZofzNSoPsj
I'm fascinated by how different cultures can have such different senses of musical tonality https://t.co/XpXZVdCagR
@tadokoro 元の論文は、これかなあ… https://t.co/AkI9EM9g0j
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/r4YOnpHlMW
RT @nature: Musical preference for consonance over dissonance varies with an individual’s experience https://t.co/0b8FXcozLK https://t.co/O…
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
RT @nature: Musical preference for consonance over dissonance varies with an individual’s experience https://t.co/0b8FXcozLK https://t.co/O…
RT @nature: Musical preference for consonance over dissonance varies with an individual’s experience https://t.co/0b8FXcozLK https://t.co/O…
RT @rsuarezsaa: Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https:…
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/HXJ8B06MKQ
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/kA6awPDmjV
Answers a question I myself had about this. Preference for consonance is primarily culturally driven. Nature paper: https://t.co/tYpqYX3KMT
Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception https://t.co/IMzAAUWVgS
RT @nature: Musical preference for consonance over dissonance varies with an individual’s experience https://t.co/0b8FXcozLK https://t.co/O…
RT @rsuarezsaa: Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https:…
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/3c9eZ9qnLY
RT @nature: Musical preference for consonance over dissonance varies with an individual’s experience https://t.co/0b8FXcozLK https://t.co/O…
so far suggested mcdermott 2016 cross-cultural paper on consonance/dissonance https://t.co/QCejdkiPEj
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/54FYIAdpy5
神戸新聞 南米先住民は不協和音も平気 https://t.co/bS1jidSSFW 南米アマゾン原住民のTsimane族は不協和音を不快に思わない(nature原著)→ https://t.co/JWAnuq1MN6
RT @OrenoSource: 神戸新聞 南米先住民は不協和音も平気 https://t.co/JwPWE5WQQk 南米アマゾン原住民のTsimane族は不協和音を不快に思わない(nature原著)→ https://t.co/b4TK9ijqEh
神戸新聞 南米先住民は不協和音も平気 https://t.co/bS1jidSSFW 南米アマゾン原住民のTsimane族は不協和音を不快に思わない(nature原著)→ https://t.co/JWAnuq1MN6
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
RT @yuji_ikegaya: チマネ族(アマゾン流域土着民)は不協和音を不快に感じないそうです。つまり私達が美しい和音を好むのは生来的なものでも自然のハーモニクスの中で育ったからでもなく、文化的なもの(西洋音楽に暴露された結果)だそうです。今朝の『ネイチャー』誌→http…
Indifference to dissonance in native Amazonians reveals cultural variation in music perception https://t.co/2LYEcBCQk4 38/#171papers
RT @OrenoSource: 神戸新聞 南米先住民は不協和音も平気 https://t.co/JwPWE5WQQk 南米アマゾン原住民のTsimane族は不協和音を不快に思わない(nature原著)→ https://t.co/b4TK9ijqEh
RT @OrenoSource: 神戸新聞 南米先住民は不協和音も平気 https://t.co/JwPWE5WQQk 南米アマゾン原住民のTsimane族は不協和音を不快に思わない(nature原著)→ https://t.co/b4TK9ijqEh
神戸新聞 南米先住民は不協和音も平気 https://t.co/JwPWE5WQQk 南米アマゾン原住民のTsimane族は不協和音を不快に思わない(nature原著)→ https://t.co/b4TK9ijqEh
神戸新聞 南米先住民は不協和音も平気 https://t.co/bS1jidSSFW 南米アマゾン原住民のTsimane族は不協和音を不快に思わない(nature原著)→ https://t.co/JWAnuq1MN6
Musical preferences are cultural, not innate. @Nature https://t.co/NrFOklw4jE #music #perception #native #amazonians https://t.co/gIKM6XvXCi
RT @nature: Musical preference for consonance over dissonance varies with an individual’s experience https://t.co/0b8FXcozLK https://t.co/O…