That's why making a phylogeny based on a whole-genome alignment of recombinant viruses can be extremely misleading! Accounting for complex recombination patterns had already been deemed important in early analysis of SARS-CoV-2's pre-pandemic evolution: ht
RT @MonaRahalkar: If the pangolin data is incorrect then how strong this NM paper co-authored by Rambaut will stand? The study gets funding…
@NoFucksNic It's genetic fingerprints shows it didn't come from a lab, but, at this point, their response to it has been so abysmal it really doesn't matter its point of origin. https://t.co/t8ceEUUAXz
RT @MonaRahalkar: If the pangolin data is incorrect then how strong this NM paper co-authored by Rambaut will stand? The study gets funding…
@tlewis3348 @GidMK @TigerlillySusan @JonathanSarfat1 @LisaMar73085074 @anonyguy Re: "Maybe you've not seen the Vanity Fair story that broke it into the mainstream?" I did. It's nonsense. This goes back to what I told you about getting your information on
RT @MonaRahalkar: If the pangolin data is incorrect then how strong this NM paper co-authored by Rambaut will stand? The study gets funding…
RT @MonaRahalkar: If the pangolin data is incorrect then how strong this NM paper co-authored by Rambaut will stand? The study gets funding…
RT @MonaRahalkar: If the pangolin data is incorrect then how strong this NM paper co-authored by Rambaut will stand? The study gets funding…
RT @MonaRahalkar: If the pangolin data is incorrect then how strong this NM paper co-authored by Rambaut will stand? The study gets funding…
RT @MonaRahalkar: If the pangolin data is incorrect then how strong this NM paper co-authored by Rambaut will stand? The study gets funding…
If the pangolin data is incorrect then how strong this NM paper co-authored by Rambaut will stand? The study gets funding from Wellcome Trust too. Check out the fundings: https://t.co/GzmRJKv2Uk https://t.co/bgqagfScuE
RT @OscarGenomics: en concreto su ancestro común sería de hace entre 30 y 40 años. Y los viajes a Yunnan para traer murciélagos que Alina C…
Evolutionary origins of the SARS-CoV-2 sarbecovirus lineage responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic - Nature https://t.co/7gYsgIVhgi
@MonaRahalkar @angoffinet It should be mentioned that Rambaut co-authored a paper just a few months later (July 2020) which contradicted this very idea. I think Farrar would have been wise to include that in his book. https://t.co/wAu8gbWec1
@flyingboris @Nicola_Bressi Per concludere il discorso, i pipistrelli albergano moltissimi parenti di SARS e SARS-CoV-2 (qui uno studio su origine e filogenesi di SARS-CoV-2: https://t.co/GbhDyJAaup) . Nonostante non siano stati trovati i virus veri e prop
RT @AtomsksSanakan: 11/S The 'SARS-CoV-2 escaped from a lab' conspiracy theory dies day-by-day. https://t.co/7NYgedXqrw "Evolutionary or…
RT @OscarGenomics: en concreto su ancestro común sería de hace entre 30 y 40 años. Y los viajes a Yunnan para traer murciélagos que Alina C…
RT @OscarGenomics: en concreto su ancestro común sería de hace entre 30 y 40 años. Y los viajes a Yunnan para traer murciélagos que Alina C…
en concreto su ancestro común sería de hace entre 30 y 40 años. Y los viajes a Yunnan para traer murciélagos que Alina Chan describe como inicio del posible escape de laboratorio fueron en 2016 (sólo 3 años antes del inicio de la pandemia). 14/ https://t.
@cashflow60 @TimYockey @JTharen @RealPNavarro @DailyMail If people actually took the time to research COVID, they would know it first started killing people in China in 2002. Bat research data shows COVID mutations over the last century. https://t.co/Iw5Rj
@polemicarc @Fede_Cervigni @MicheleBongiov4 @Kapparar1 Ahahahahahhahahahahaahahahah video, foglietti qualsiasi hahahahahahahahahha https://t.co/x3b0zYxK7h Questa è un'analisi filogenetica, ma tu, che non sai nemmeno cosa sia un genoma, non sei in grado di
Evolutionary "Science" does NOT test the hypothesis of Origin but is trapped inside the hypothesis spitting out phylogenetic trees as "proof" of the premise it consumes. Evolution, itself, can't say if man is created by God or Aliens, let alone if a virus
I'm sorry, I thought evolution that *proved* the Origin of man had also proved the zootonic Origin of covid. What? Is evolutionary science just BS? NATURE: Evolutionary origins of the SARS-CoV-2 sarbecovirus lineage responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic
@AndyMLinn So instead of requesting to see scientists' emails, inventing paranoid interpretations about what they're doing, etc., I suggest you read the research in which they go over evidence relevant to your lab leak conspiracism. https://t.co/mgLVhZuf8
@jaredpretender @nailbomb3 @Ayjchan @mattwridley @zeynep Experts went through evidence on the non-anthropogenic origin of SARS-CoV-2, as they did on HIV. Non-expert conspiracists being unpersuaded is irrelevant. https://t.co/qaBLab8o4s https://t.co/hHlW
@ShutitdownCuse @Iwontusemyrealn @Sayfax @grillcasttm @abbieasr Looking at the report you linked from the GOP foreign affairs committee, it does not address the actual conclusions of researchers, rather it relies on the writers lack of education in biology
RT @mellziland: Análises filogenéticas recentes identificaram que os SARSr-CoVs provavelmente divergiram de um coronavírus ancestral deriva…
Notice that a few months later, Rambaut co-authored a paper saying the RBD did NOT come from an intermediary host (e.g. pangolins), 'as proposed by "others"': https://t.co/C9bzeF9SmM https://t.co/qCk0dRvl4G
@poobigly @PostOpinions @joshrogin 🤦♂️You and I are the same lineage. (among apes). Humans and chimps are the same lineage (among mammals). Only twins have identical sequences. I’m happy to help you with Bio 101, but I wish you’d be less confident in sayi
@muellmannus @LumLotus *Laughs in published lit* 1. https://t.co/T7eoNkvmib 2. https://t.co/uGl0hLihLC 3. https://t.co/HU7KqyNjE6 4. https://t.co/mpcVZNSGiP 5. https://t.co/uVGXBjjQXv I could keep going, but these reviews should suffice to establish consen
RT @jbloom_lab: @AntGDuarte @viget99 @arambaut Isn't this expected unless I'm mis-understanding something? Similar to trees shown here, a n…
@BioSRP @arambaut No SARS-CoV-2 is not a recombinant virus as described here https://t.co/L20NYshYBp
RT @jbloom_lab: @AntGDuarte @viget99 @arambaut Isn't this expected unless I'm mis-understanding something? Similar to trees shown here, a n…
@AntGDuarte @viget99 @arambaut Isn't this expected unless I'm mis-understanding something? Similar to trees shown here, a normal evolutionary process would give rise to some mutations shared only between each pair of sequences: https://t.co/eZcdhDKZiW
@CentristXtreme Anyway, going to ignore you now, @CentristXtreme. There's no more chance of getting through to a conspiracist like you on SARS-CoV-2's origin, than of getting through to Richard Spencer on the Holocaust. https://t.co/yfeo4ooJxj
@kcz100 @MJnanostretch @stuartjdneil Always nice when the conspiracists run away when they realize biologically literate people aren't falling for their nonsense. 😁 https://t.co/yfeo4ooJxj https://t.co/UBIbrjNg1b
@Chris__Sage The non-expert conspiracists will never stop, of course, even as science moves beyond them. "Reports of conspiracy theories for the source and sudden appearance of the virus have been negated by phylogenetic studies" https://t.co/gpz76tW5MJ
@mentju4 @TomahawkVPhD @EcoHealthNYC There is posterior diversity. https://t.co/xZzmePjgj7
@JSB_08 @Theshells1111 @zerohedge There is no mounting evidence. In fact, evidence is pointing away from that, including this analysis by experts: https://t.co/T4ImiOKYSp
RT @mellziland: Análises filogenéticas recentes identificaram que os SARSr-CoVs provavelmente divergiram de um coronavírus ancestral deriva…
RT @mellziland: Análises filogenéticas recentes identificaram que os SARSr-CoVs provavelmente divergiram de um coronavírus ancestral deriva…
Análises filogenéticas recentes identificaram que os SARSr-CoVs provavelmente divergiram de um coronavírus ancestral derivado de 🦇entre 1948 e 1982, sugerindo que os SARSr-CoVs têm circulado em espécies selecionadas de 🦇há algum tempo https://t.co/CYwJTbHd
@SixandLaura @HoldingTheCent1 My scepticism that COVID-19 in the US predates Dec. 2019 is because genetics doesn't appear to support. There were other severe illness *not* SARS-CoV2 out there. https://t.co/4Chm8wN7yB https://t.co/8a1NhgPO1W
@Illegalemigran1 @Science54900201 @R_H_Ebright @BooFinley @Maestermagoo @mrandersoninneo @mccarthy_kr @halvorz Except of course it doesn’t look like a recombination in the S region. https://t.co/p2cRGNdXWg
RT @robertson_lab: @lab_leak @murchiston RatG13 also has an odd spike, see figure 2 here https://t.co/wM6nXgUeTl, which is why the pangolin…
@WhereIsYanLing @scotub Hmm.. OK. But the spike is more similar to SARS1 than the rest of the virus? https://t.co/Y1HKyCCzke
https://t.co/9yZmNd4Rda これ見ると新型コロナウイルスは70年前から存在していて人間に感染力をもつように進化した事になるな。
@lab_leak @murchiston RatG13 also has an odd spike, see figure 2 here https://t.co/wM6nXgUeTl, which is why the pangolin viruses seem more like SARS-CoV-2 in the RBM region. It's again because all of these closest bat viruses aren't that close at all in Sp
@BlasIgnacio @tanquedecasma ...porque la fuerza que mueve la evolución en estos virus no es solo la mutación, sino, muy especialmente, la recombinación. Lean, lean 👇🏻 https://t.co/BtMCATmOgh
ウイルス学:コウモリのウイルスからSARS-CoV-2が分岐した時期 | Nature Microbiology https://t.co/XrYOeVMHXY 「SARS-CoV-2が関連するコウモリサルベコウイルスから遺伝的に分岐したのは、それぞれ1948年、1969年、1982年と推定された。」
@queenofunseen @thierrybaudet @Talk2Myra Ik kan meer precies het article vinden dat ik toen zag. Maar wel: https://t.co/tlLPQUJ2oq, https://t.co/zQHnIkGQhj, citaat: >>
ウイルス学:コウモリのウイルスからSARS-CoV-2が分岐した時期 | Nature Microbiology | Nature Portfolio: https://t.co/Zkc7jzqITw https://t.co/zBy9IbM9G2
@MargoCa26504030 @Nicjournalist @GJ4032 If you believe in flu, other viruses or Ivermectin as treatment or that Wuhan was involved then why are you rejecting that it exists. See below. This is old news tbh https://t.co/mUxipdrtMO
@FiftyFour17 A very good paper on the evolutionary origins of SARS-CoV-2 lineage. https://t.co/zdnwvxsMj7 I covered this on my patreon some time back, and I believe there’s no paywall on that post, if you manage to find it
@THEKratosirving @CawthornforNC In particular, the way this virus binds in us using our ACE2 inhibitor receptor as a way in to our lung tissue is not novel and has been ‘circulating in bat coronavirus for decades’. https://t.co/Miara3nUoo
@THEKratosirving @CawthornforNC This is one of several important research articles proving this, FYI… which you will never hear about it in the ‘news’ and certainly not if you watch Fox or OAN… https://t.co/Miara3nUoo
"Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus."
RT @robertson_lab: @babarlelephant @emmecola @Ayjchan Definitely there's strong geographical clustering in the data as this figure shows bu…
@RicardLopez123 @MarujaConejo Antecedentes de recombinación los hay en otros coronavirus. No es un fenómeno raro. Hay estudios incluso del origen de los sarbecobirus y los investigadores apuntan a recombinaciones https://t.co/rL4V62L0i4
つまり、ここから切れます印がつけられて、ヒトでもかんたんに切断できるように、ほとんどオリジナルのコウモリ向け○○ベコウイルスが、不自然に改変されている、かのように見える:- | https://t.co/4OntxkUhpB
@dthinker1 @dionysuslilipu1 @belfastbicycle1 @FinEarly @StephenNolan Coco, we don’t know it came directly from a bat, we just know the most common recent ancestor we can trace is in Horseshoe bats. https://t.co/AZOWWOaOLJ https://t.co/r4fJCT1OS5 https:
@andyaschmidt @Dirk_aus_Hessen @EricTopol @RS_Eng_Brain @zeynep I keep seeing this Occam’s razor thought, it’s nonsense. One cursory glance at the data leads you in the complete opposite direction, 40-70 years divergence from know horseshoe bat viruses? Pr
And there’s also evidence that #SARSCoV2 arose following [at least] one revombination event: https://t.co/IWtr67quQv
RT @carlzimmer: @DrSeaPerle In the Middle Ages? https://t.co/MPC4w58lXY https://t.co/yKFvY9sYo0
RT @carlzimmer: @DrSeaPerle In the Middle Ages? https://t.co/MPC4w58lXY https://t.co/yKFvY9sYo0
RT @carlzimmer: @DrSeaPerle In the Middle Ages? https://t.co/MPC4w58lXY https://t.co/yKFvY9sYo0
@DrSeaPerle In the Middle Ages? https://t.co/MPC4w58lXY https://t.co/yKFvY9sYo0
@Science54900201 @stuartjdneil Re: "We currently have very little evidence" Your evidence-free bare assertion is noted. As someone who's actually looked at a lot of the evidence, I'll just reject your baseless claim. 😁 https://t.co/CqgXfDxcXp
RT @Justin_Ling: Literally everyone agrees about zoonotic origin. It's a question of whether it was zoonotic spillover. And there is a pi…
RT @Rossana38510044: @breakfast_dogs @lab_leak More likely than in nature: "SARS-CoV-2 itself is not a recombinant of any sarbecoviruses de…
@breakfast_dogs @lab_leak More likely than in nature: "SARS-CoV-2 itself is not a recombinant of any sarbecoviruses detected to date, and its receptor-binding motif..appears to be an ancestral trait shared with bat viruses and not one acquired recently via
@Rossana38510044 @stuartjdneil @FrancescoEsp33 @past_is_future @InWuchang @evolving_string @ydeigin @Daoyu15 maybe a MRCA with 2-6 months of lab passaging. These papers: https://t.co/JNovcUmXaE are only valid if you can absolutely guarantee the virus has n
@stuartjdneil @Hall8Jack @ydeigin @jbloom_lab I have read every single of your tweets from last week. I found lots of references indicating that SARS2 and RaTG13 had a MRCA ~50y ago IF SARS2 evolved naturally: https://t.co/opwQ1NAi2j https://t.co/rjBkkvTw8
RT @Justin_Ling: Literally everyone agrees about zoonotic origin. It's a question of whether it was zoonotic spillover. And there is a pi…